dom

但......面對4核Zen HBM APU...真是有點動搖.

4核 Sandybridge + 7850 + 8GB HBM - 65W tdp - $3000 ...
ironmonkey 發表於 8-5-2015 07:07 PM

65W TDP is impossible .......
Even INTEL is pushing back to 95W TDP...

dom

CPU development cycle is 4 to 5 years anyways. There is basically virtually nothing they can do. A ...
Stiggy930 發表於 11-5-2015 10:21 AM

I think GPU side they will be OKAY
AMD have pretty firm stand with GPU development....at least on track until recently...
Plus they have 100% market dominate with Console (XBOX One / PS4 / Wii U is powered by AMD APU or AMD Radeon based GPU)

But for "CPU" they lack of product keeping them in the playing field, low/mid end server / Workstation class they have NO product that's with modern feature (U3/S3/ M.2 / SATAExpress)     and the worst part is poor performance compare with competiting product from Intel ......

Kundera

CPU development cycle is 4 to 5 years anyways. There is basically virtually nothing they can do. A ...
Stiggy930 發表於 2015-5-11 10:21

Intel grows much bigger in server market than it was in 2003 or 2008. They have E7 v3 to battle the RISC big iron and Xeon Phi to tackle GPGPU. And they have Xeon-D for low power servers/ clusters A very powerful CPU (let's say on par with Skylake IPC) is not enough to 'come back' to the server market. Unless your design can scale well beyond 8 sockets and a better interconnect (like NVlink) that you have some chance to beat Xeon. But AMD is also known for their lack of resource to update their chipset.

ironmonkey

65W TDP is impossible .......
Even INTEL is pushing back to 95W TDP...
dom 發表於 2015-5-11 11:00

you are fired !

mkm00235

AMD 掙氣D LA, 頂死INTEL

qcmadness

但......面對4核Zen HBM APU...真是有點動搖.

4核 Sandybridge + 7850 + 8GB HBM - 65W tdp - $3000 ...
ironmonkey 發表於 2015-5-8 19:07

For Intel's chip design, attaining such performance will require 200W+
The GPU alone will consume 150W+

The 4 HBM chips will consume 15W alone

ironmonkey

For Intel's chip design, attaining such performance will require 200W+
The GPU alone will consume  ...
qcmadness 發表於 2015-5-16 19:34

要求己經很細, 總之:
入mini itx 細箱過熱 = Fail  
CPU冇Quad SandyBridge 效能 = Fail
GPU冇HD7850 效能 = Fail

qcmadness

要求己經很細, 總之:
入mini itx 細箱過熱 = Fail  
CPU冇Quad SandyBridge 效能 = Fail
GPU冇HD7850 效 ...
ironmonkey 發表於 2015-5-17 14:12

強人所難, Intel出咁既野, 都要200W樓上, 你要AMD出到65W? 你發夢咋掛

玩到盡既野, 唔計效能, 你所講既SandyBridge連內置IGP一樣會過熱