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作者: toylet    時間: 2016-4-21 19:31     標題: 網民瘋狂恥笑!安裝太多軟件會令電腦短路爆炸!?

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作者: wkleung    時間: 2016-4-21 19:37

當你唸下有日係你腳底部腦著火時就唔覺得有咩咁好笑, 唔該認真看待下著火
作者: tonychoi    時間: 2016-4-21 19:39

其實會唔會又係記者斷章取義呀?
作者: toylet    時間: 2016-4-21 19:40

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作者: toylet    時間: 2016-4-21 19:41

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作者: bad3luck    時間: 2016-4-22 00:17

testing hk+er
作者: danny9428    時間: 2016-4-22 00:30

噴火球而家變成電腦大爆炸
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-4-22 07:38

本帖最後由 core2duo 於 2016-4-22 07:41 編輯
安裝過多軟件及儲藏照片,不僅增加耗電,(如果)變壓器輸出功率亦不足,(就)易過熱引致短路爆炸

其實我覺得佢講既野系合符邏輯
裝多左軟件→自動啟動既多左(你唔可以assume人人識disable開機啟動)→增加電腦功耗→再加上變壓器輸出不足→變壓器功率<系統功率→變壓器過熱→物料溶解→短路→燃燒→爆炸
作者: smoke_cheese    時間: 2016-4-22 08:23

甚至有網民「溫柔的暴力」回帶石丹理的 56K 偉論:「我勸他們不要安裝寬頻,56K 已足夠」諷刺「會長偉論」「前有石丹理,後有溫冠新」。


依家啲電腦大部分有on-board LAN
反而加個56k modem仲多咗樣嘢發熱
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-4-22 08:47

其實我覺得佢講既野系合符邏輯
裝多左軟件→自動啟動既多左(你唔可以assume人人識disable開機啟動)→增加電腦功耗→再加上變壓器輸出不足→變壓器功率<系統功率→變壓器過熱→物料溶解→短路→燃燒→爆炸
core2duo 發表於 2016-4-22 07:38



    Logical fallacy - Slippery slope
作者: PowerShot    時間: 2016-4-22 09:11

其實我覺得佢講既野系合符邏輯
裝多左軟件→自動啟動既多左(你唔可以assume人人識disable開機啟動)→增加 ...
core2duo 發表於 2016-4-22 07:38



    電腦梗係要黎安野用ga la, 你唔預期唔比安大食野, 如果軟件真係會令電腦著火, 甘應該安前貼上警告字句, 同埋送埋火險~ windows GUI 介面都會增加負荷, 所以都係用番windows 3.1 or ms-dos 就最好
作者: mouseman    時間: 2016-4-22 10:00

However, this was true

with dusty environment, while there is a lot of software running, CPU kept on 100% loading

CPU fan got burnt, I tried once using CooleX MastXX CPU fan.
作者: YES_MAN    時間: 2016-4-22 10:12

無謂幫佢兜
兜到軟件都兜唔到圖或照片
衰衰地認一次錯

被人訪問
唔係太懂就講d唔會錯的東西
作者: patkm    時間: 2016-4-22 10:26

要兜既話, 只好話佢思維太快, 一開口只有結果->單一原因(?), 中間無論證支持
作者: Mtube    時間: 2016-4-22 10:32

使用綠色軟件有助降溫
作者: tuyylihk    時間: 2016-4-22 10:33

其實我覺得佢講既野系合符邏輯
裝多左軟件→自動啟動既多左(你唔可以assume人人識disable開機啟動)→增加 ...
core2duo 發表於 2016-4-22 07:38

你軟件都仲勉強講得通
儲相點都講唔到
作者: patpatlee1231    時間: 2016-4-22 10:35

我覺得記者斷章取義多

其實表達得好少少, 就冇問題 ~

裝得軟件太多, 例如很多內地軟件, 很多後台工作, 會令到處理器長期處於高負載,
加上變壓器如果W數不足或質量不好, 就會增加著火的風險.

面對面講未好好整理得切, 同埋記者斷章取義真係害左佢.....
作者: 110120160    時間: 2016-4-22 10:35

得淡笑
作者: feverpc    時間: 2016-4-22 12:32

如果隻火牛Support唔到部機Full Load,其實已經係Config問題...
作者: diy-apprentice    時間: 2016-4-22 13:11

一派胡言+語無倫次!!!
作者: tuyylihk    時間: 2016-4-22 14:31

居然仲有part2
http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realtime/breaking/20160422/55016171
作者: B687    時間: 2016-4-22 15:00

他建議在家中使用電腦用家最好開冷氣,減低電腦過熱機會

電費好平??
作者: TH30    時間: 2016-4-22 15:09

他建議在家中使用電腦用家最好開冷氣,減低電腦過熱機會
B687 發表於 2016-4-22 03:00 PM


冷氣長開又會過熱,唯有用另一部冷氣吹住
作者: 未熟者    時間: 2016-4-22 15:19

即係壓片着硬火 佢一定係收咗錢幫商會促銷notebook
作者: yik_cheung    時間: 2016-4-22 15:21

回覆 23# TH30


    唔怪得之佢可以做榮譽會長。。。
作者: NG    時間: 2016-4-22 16:51

手提電腦的散熱做得比桌上電腦更好
一般不是桌上電腦D12cm風扇散熱更好的嗎
作者: 肥肥    時間: 2016-4-22 17:18

手提電腦的散熱做得比桌上電腦更好
一般不是桌上電腦D12cm風扇散熱更好的嗎 ...
NG 發表於 2016-4-22 16:51


我都岩岩想講, notebook只係發效能低熱量低, 絕對唔係咩野"散熱做得比桌上電腦更好"囉.......
作者: big_nature    時間: 2016-4-22 17:36

用dos就安全理論!

作者: JIMillim    時間: 2016-4-22 17:53

居然仲有part2
tuyylihk 發表於 2016-4-22 02:31 PM

part 2都係fail
過往係漢科代理時, 間中要煲機測試過夜, 又唔見有火燭
壓力測試fail, 就係唔合規格
作者: hihihi123hk    時間: 2016-4-22 19:55

回覆 17# patpatlee1231


   
打機嗰陣長期 CPU GPU 70-100%  幾個鐘

所以重點 根本就關 安裝軟件事,就算你真係長期 100% 7x24,隻火牛最多都係熱啲,過熱到斷電/熄/燒咗

實則上只係隻 火牛本身有 defect ,造成爆炸。根本同 Full loading  chur 多啲電無關

呢個先係被恥笑個位

via HKEPC Ionic Reader v1.2.9 - iPhone
作者: 132003hk    時間: 2016-4-22 20:50

唔怪得啲智能手機咁易爆炸 叮.gif
手機廠以後唔好裝咁多垃圾預載程而又唔比人DEL喇 唉.gif
高負載粒電易爆啊 恥笑3.gif

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作者: gary0916    時間: 2016-4-22 22:47

笑死
"雖然有市民會「24小時開冷氣」以求為電腦降溫,但方認為這樣也有風險,因冷氣機也可能會過熱。"
作者: YES_MAN    時間: 2016-4-23 07:23

人地講咩就寫咩
生果做到真正的無篩選了
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-4-23 10:49

Logical fallacy - Slippery slope
Answer 發表於 2016-4-22 08:47

宜家講緊A去B有可行性行徑,唔系A必然去B
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-4-23 10:50

你軟件都仲勉強講得通
儲相點都講唔到
tuyylihk 發表於 2016-4-22 10:33

呢個我都捻唔到
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-4-23 10:54

電腦梗係要黎安野用ga la, 你唔預期唔比安大食野, 如果軟件真係會令電腦著火, 甘應該安前貼上警告字 ...
PowerShot 發表於 2016-4-22 09:11

所以新聞咪同你一樣,斷章取義lor
作者: sunnykoomos    時間: 2016-4-23 16:53


作者: soccerism    時間: 2016-4-23 16:59

人地講咩就寫咩
生果做到真正的無篩選了
YES_MAN 發表於 2016-4-23 07:23



    我反而覺得個記者根本對電腦結構/運作毫無常識, 唔明就自己老作, 試過有朋友接受佢地訪問, 出街版本和訪問內容相差九千幾倍 
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-1 03:13

宜家講緊A去B有可行性行徑,唔系A必然去B
core2duo 發表於 2016-4-23 10:49



    This can also be slippery slope.  Slippery slope does not necessarily means entailment.

Btw, talking about "可行性行徑", what is the probability of your saying that "裝多左軟件" leads to "爆炸" in the end?
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-1 04:17

This can also be slippery slope.  Slippery slope does not necessarily means entailment.

Btw, ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-1 03:13
The Slippery Slope is a fallacy in which a person asserts that some event must inevitably follow from another without any argument for the inevitability of the event in question

裝多左軟件 leads to 爆炸 in the end

其實你有冇睇?佢話加上'電源功率不足'先會導致爆炸,睇曬全部先話人啦
記者斷章取義,你又斷章取義,仲好意思用Logical fallacy來話人
作者: iamgood2    時間: 2016-5-1 11:29

D 火牛唔夠火係直接起火 咁危
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-1 14:53

其實你有冇睇?佢話加上'電源功率不足'先會導致爆炸,睇曬全部先話人啦
記者斷章取義,你又 ...
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-1 04:17



    Source: http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#SlipperySlope
Slippery Slope

Suppose someone claims that a first step (in a chain of causes and effects, or a chain of reasoning) will probably lead to a second step that in turn will probably lead to another step and so on until a final step ends in trouble. If the likelihood of the trouble occurring is exaggerated, the Slippery Slope Fallacy is present.


See above but I agree slippery slope can be used to state the starting point must lead to the ending point.

On the other hand, can you point out where did I said the original author has slippery slope argument? I think it is clear that I directly quoted your argument. Seems you are the one who "斷章取義"

Also, you said it is about "可行性行徑" and assume it is true for a second, you are still avoiding the question about the probability of the starting point "裝多左軟件" leads to the ending point "爆炸".
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-1 21:03

本帖最後由 core2duo 於 2016-5-1 21:20 編輯
Source:


See above but I agree slippery slope can be used to state the starting point must  ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-1 14:53
Suppose someone claims that a first step (in a chain of causes and effects, or a chain of reasoning) will probably lead to a second step that in turn will probably lead to another step and so on until a final step ends in trouble. If the likelihood of the trouble occurring is exaggerated, the Slippery Slope Fallacy is present.

probably≠possibly交換概念
同埋呢,slippery slope系用來說明從A→.....→B太多不確定因素,不能證明:There is no chance of A →......→ B
裝多左軟件→自動啟動既多左(你唔可以assume人人識disable開機啟動)→增加電腦功耗→再加上變壓器輸出不足→變壓器功率<系統功率→變壓器過熱→物料溶解→短路→燃燒→爆炸
有冇睇,定系只是睇箭頭?
咩叫做再加上?唔識中文?
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-1 21:25

Also, you said it is about "可行性行徑" and assume it is true for a second, you are still avoiding the question about the probability of the starting point "裝多左軟件" leads to the ending point "爆炸"
Answer 發表於 2016-5-1 14:53

你選擇性忽略再加上變壓器輸出不足呢個條件呢,立論落去都係曬Gas
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-1 21:30

Source:


See above but I agree slippery slope can be used to state the starting point must  ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-1 14:53

問你三個問題
1)裝多左軟件在沒有禁止自動啟動的情況下有沒有機會增加電腦功耗?
2)在電源功率不足的情況下有沒有機會導致過熱爆炸?
3)在電源功率不足情況下增加電腦功耗有沒有機會導致爆炸?
唔洗講咁多,Yes or No問題
如果你咁都睇唔明,講乜鬼Fallacy姐
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-2 01:47

probably≠possibly交換概念
同埋呢,slippery slope系用來說明從A→.....→B太多不確定因素,不 ...
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-1 21:03



    haha, it is just a definition to show it is not necessarily "必然" as you said, not saying probably = possible, don't 斷章取義

in case you selectively ignore my reply, I also mentioned that slippery slope can be applied to arguments where starting point must lead to ending point.
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-2 03:02

你選擇性忽略再加上變壓器輸出不足呢個條件呢,立論落去都係曬Gas
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-1 21:25



    what makes you think I'm ignore this statement but not other statements like 自動啟動既多左, 增加電腦功耗, etc? psychosis?

my question is what is the probability that the starting point "裝多左軟件" leads to the ending point "爆炸" through your whole chain of statements? (assuming it is "可行性行徑" as you said)

裝多左軟件→自動啟動既多左(你唔可以assume人人識disable開機啟動)→增加電腦功耗→再加上變壓器輸出不足→變壓器功率<系統功率→變壓器過熱→物料溶解→短路→燃燒→爆炸


it seems you're either avoiding the question or you're an illiterate
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-2 03:17

問你三個問題
1)裝多左軟件在沒有禁止自動啟動的情況下有沒有機會增加電腦功耗?
2)在電源功率不足的情況 ...
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-1 21:30



    I pointed out your fallacy and now you started sidetracking, a typical tactic of internet troll.
It simply does not make sense to discuss some argument which is a fallacy
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-2 03:19

本帖最後由 core2duo 於 2016-5-2 03:36 編輯
what makes you think I'm ignore this statement but not other statements like 自動啟動既多左,  ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-2 03:02

我的說法是:裝多左軟件+電源功率不足有機會導致爆炸
我並非說單一裝多左軟件有機會導致爆炸,成日想set個陷阱比人踩
所以你的問題系冇意義
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-2 03:22

I pointed out your fallacy and now you started sidetracking, a typical tactic of internet tro ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-2 03:17

你先了解下Fallacy系點用先算!
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-2 03:24

haha, it is just a definition to show it is not necessarily "必然" as you said, not saying pr ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-2 01:47

Slippery Slope 不是用來說明可能性,不要迴避問題
你又冇睇我#8的quote?
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-2 03:26

I pointed out your fallacy and now you started sidetracking, a typical tactic of internet tro ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-2 03:17

可以用Slippery Slope來point out可行性?出處,唔該~
作者: core2duo    時間: 2016-5-2 03:29

I pointed out your fallacy and now you started sidetracking, a typical tactic of internet tro ...
Answer 發表於 2016-5-2 03:17

你都系睇漏左個條件姐,洗乜死撐
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-9 23:32

我的說法是:裝多左軟件+電源功率不足有機會導致爆炸
我並非說單一裝多左軟件有機會導致爆炸,成日想set個 ...
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-2 03:19



    Now you're changing your argument, haha. Look at your original post
Btw, what is the trap you're talking about? are you having delusion?
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-9 23:34

Slippery Slope 不是用來說明可能性,不要迴避問題
你又冇睇我#8的quote?
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-2 03:24



    Of course I've read your quote in #8. But what has it to do with your fallacy?
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-9 23:36

可以用Slippery Slope來point out可行性?出處,唔該~
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-2 03:26



    see #42
作者: Answer    時間: 2016-5-9 23:42

你都系睇漏左個條件姐,洗乜死撐
core2duo 發表於 2016-5-2 03:29



    I think you're truly delusional, I was always referring to your whole argument (that chain thing), again, see#47. You seems like twisting thing a lot. Look at your argument, the fact it is a fallacy won't change no matter how many excuses / changing meaning you gave.





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